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J. N. Madvig, Syntax of the Greek Language: Appendix, On the Use and Meaning of the Particles

Syntax of The Greek Language, especially of the Attic dialect, for the use of schools, Dr. J. N. Madvig, professor in the university of Copenhagen. Translated from the German by the rev. Henry Browne, M. A and edited by the rev. Thomas Kerchever Arnold, M. A, late rector of Lyndon, and formerly fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge. Together with an Appendix on the Greek Particles, by the Translator. 2nd edition. Rivingstons: London, Oxford, and Cambridge, 1873.

Pages 211–254 of the book.

§ 230

This particle, bearing the same relation to the first numeral (μείς) μία, that δέ bears to the second and to the δείς in οὐδείς (not οὐδ᾽ εἷς) means therefore in the first place, and a μέν is usually followed by a corresponding dé. But as the dé has not always a preceding μέν,

μέν, so μέν not always a following δε. This, however, is always implied in the thought. Φιλοτιμίᾳ μὲν ἐνέχεται, δεινῷ κακῷ, Eur. Iph. A. 527, ambition indeed (in the first place, as far as that goes) he is liable to (the suppressed opposition being, but what of the rest, but what then?) Καὶ ὁπόθεν ποτε ταύτην τὴν ἐπωνυμίαν ἔλαβες τὸ μανικὸς καλεῖσθαι, οὐκ οἶδα ἔγωγε· ἐν μὲν γὰρ τοῖς λόγοις ἀεὶ τοιοῦτος εἶ, for in your discourse (to begin with that, it must be owned, at any rate), &c. (Pl.) Λέγεται δὲ καὶ ὅδε ὁ λόγος, ἐμοὶ μὲν οὐ πιθανός, Hdt. 3, 3, to me for my part (but what others may think I know not). Οὔτοι δὴ ἀφίκται, ἀλλὰ δοκεῖ μέν μοι ἥξειν τήμερον, Pl. Crito, 43 D, it seems to me, for my part. So οἶμαι μέν, ἡγοῦμαι μέν, δοκῶ μέν, οὐκ οἶδα μέν. Παρεγένου μὲν τῇ μάχῃ, Pl. Charm. 153 C, you were present surely (or, I suppose) -? (suppressed: but if not, I have no more to say.)

REM. In Homer and Ionic, μέν is frequently used in the same sense as the

cognate form μήν, μάν, § 231: in the later dialects, only so in the combinations

μέντοι, μὲν οὖν, μὲν δή.

μήν Dor., and Ep. μάν.

§ 231

This particle, cognate with μέν, involves the same primary notion "first and foremost," "to begin with," but more strongly expressed, as here the whole statement stops at the μέν, as if the one thing were all: it insists upon one thing (the first) to the exclusion of the rest. Hence it is confirmative and concessive, and also oppositive and adversative (as Lat. vero). Accordingly, it stands in hortatory addresses and exclamations: εἰ δ᾽ ἄγε μήν, πείρησαι, but come now, do try (in the first place, now, for once); ἔπου μήν, do follow: in questions, τίνος μὴν ἕνεκα μανθάνετε τοξεύειν; to what end (let me ask you one thing) do you learn –? especially τί μήν; thus, οἱ τὸ παράπαν ἡδονὰς οὔ φασιν εἶναι. “τί μήν;” i. e. τί μὴν ἄλλο φασὶν αὐτὰς εἶναι; what else, I pray (for one thing), do they affirm them to be? Ὁρᾶς οὖν ἐκείνην τὴν ὑψηλοτάτην πλάτανον; “τί μήν;” Pl. Phil. 44, what else, I pray, do I but see it? = to be sure I do: in argumentative assertions with latent interrogation, σώφρων μὴν (I suppose I may assert this one thing) ὁ γε τοιοῦτος καὶ οὐδαμῇ φιλοχρήματος, Pl. Rep. 485, and adversatively, ταῦτ᾽ ἐπιεικῶς μέν ἐστιν ὑπό τι ἄτοπα, δηλοῖ μήν –, this is indeed somewhat strange; it shows, however –: οὐ μὴν ἐρεῖς γε, but then surely you don't mean to say: in asseverations, ὧδε γὰρ ἐξερέω, καὶ μὴν τετελεσμένον ἔσται, and be sure of one thing = assuredly; so ἢ μήν, the usual formula of swearing, ἐπομνύω σοι, ἢ μὴν ἐγὼ βούλεσθαι, verily and truly (for one thing, come what will): in announcing the coming of a new person: ὅδε μὴν Αἵμων, here, however, comes H.! (The notion however, which often renders μήν, is given by the suppressed opposition, "for one thing, however it may be with the rest," or the like.)

§ 232

καὶ μήν, καὶ μὴν γε, the καί adverbial. Καὶ μὴν χάριν γ᾽ ἂν ἀξίαν λάβοις ἐμοῦ (well be sure of one thing -): “ καὶ μὴν μάλιστα τοῦτ᾽ ἀφικόμην, ὅπως (well, sure enough -), Soph. Ed. T. 1004, 5. Adversatively: ἀλλ᾽ ἐκδιδάσκει πάνθ' ὁ γηράσκων χρόνος. “ καὶ μὴν σύ γ' οὔπω σωφρονεῖν ἐπίστασαι," yet, sure enough. καὶ μὴν πάρεισιν οἶδε, Soph. El. 1412. καὶ μὴν ὁρῶ τάλαιναν Εὐρυδίκην, Ant. 1165 (announcing the arrival of a new person). καὶ μὴν Τάνταλον εἰδεῖδον, then or moreover (for one thing) -. Od. 11, 582 (comp. Attic καὶ μενδή, § 236 c.) – καὶ μὴν καί, and (for one thing) moreover.

§ 233

ἀλλὰ μήν: ἀλλὰ μὴν κεκραξόμεσθά γ᾽ ὁπόσον ἡ φάρυγξ ἂν ἡμῶν χανδάνῃ, well then, we will cry (if that be all), expressive of readiness to do something which one is challenged to do: ἀλλ᾽ ἐστι μὴν οἰκητός, Arist. R. 258, well, it is inhabited (I see that for one thing, sure enough): εἰ εἰσὶ βωμοί, εἰσὶ καὶ θεοί· ἀλλὰ μὴν (atqui) εἰσὶ βωμοί· εἰσὶν ἄρα θεοί, but there are altars. ἀλλ᾽ οὐ μήν, but not, be assured of that, especially in hasty rejoinders: τῆς δ᾽ ἑκοῦσα παιδὸς οὐ μεθήσομαι. “ ἀλλ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ἐγὼ μὴν τήνδ᾽ ἄπειμ᾿ αὐτοῦ λιπών, " no, nor will I; be assured of that -. (For ἀλλὰ μὴν δή, which often occurs in some copies of Plato, the critical edd. restore ἀλλὰ μὲν δή.)

γε μήν, quidem certe, see under γε, § 250.

REM. In Homer, μέν is often used in precisely the sense of μήν: thus ἢ μέν:

οὐ (μὴ) μέν: οὐδὲ μέν = ἀλλ᾽ οὐ μήν: καὶ μέν.

§ 234

δή. This particle, related to δέ as μήν is to μέν, insists upon the dé to the exclusion of the μέν: its general force therefore = " leave all that is before (or intermediate) and come to that," " come to that at once, and stop there." Hence its very frequent use in emphatic statements of place, time, degree: in peremptory determinations and conclusions, urgent demands, impatient questions, in putting something as generally acknowledged (= " everybody has come to that conclusion"), and in the expression of irony and derision. Except in the epic style, δὴ τότε, δὴ γάρ, it never begins a sentence, and it is usually attached almost like a suffix to the word which it qualifies: comp. τόσος δή with τοσόςδε, αὐτὸς δή with i(s)dem, πρὶν δή with pridem, ἄγε δή with agedum.

1) With numerals, demonstratives, local and temporal adverbs, words of dimension, superlatives. τρεῖς δή, three (not short of, and not beyond): ἕκτον δὴ τύδ᾽ ἦμαρ, this is now the sixth day (it has come to that), πάντως and πάνυ δή. πολλοὶ and πολλάκις δή. – ἐκεῖνος, οὗτος, οὕτω, ἐνταῦθα, ὧδε δή: τὰ αὐτὰ δὴ ταῦτα: so the personal pronouns, σὲ δή, thee there –: νῦν δή, τότε δή (Hom. δὴ τότε, δή ῥα τότ'): ἔτι, οὐκέτι, πάλαι, πρὶν, ἀεὶ, τέλος, ὄψε δή δαρόν τε δὴ χρόνον. – ἐν βραχεῖ δή. – πλεῖστα, κράτιστοι δή.

2) With relative, interrogative, indefinite pronouns. ὃς, οἷος δή. τίς δή, who' ever? (= when are we ever to get at him? who on earth?) πῶς, ὅσος δή; ἄλλος δή, alius nescio quis. δή τις, quidam nescio quis. δή που, somewhere or other. όςτις δή and δήποτε.ὡς and

δή που, surely (= that somehow), and οὐ δή που, surely not, see under που. ἵνα (final) δή, precisely in order that. ὡς (as) δή with irony us if forsooth (so very certain is that!), ἅτε, οἷα δή.

3) With particles of asseveration and negation. ἢ δή, verily (= that, whatever comes before it), comp. ἢ μήν (= this, whatever comes after it). οὐ δή, not (that!), μὴ δή (do not think of that!), μή τι δή (cf. nedum), and μή τί γε δή, to say nothing of-, much less - (= only not that!).

4) With nouns: τότε δὴ ὁ Κῦρος λέγει· Ὦ Κυαξάρη, ὥρα δὴ ἐξαπαντᾶν, Xen. ἐπειδὴ δοκεῖ λήθη τις εἶναι κανάπαυλα δή, Soph. Phil, 866, a cessation at last (it has come to that). Often with irony, τοὺς ᾿Αθηναίους φίλους δὴ ὄντας, Thuc. 6, 80, friends forsooth (so likely that!). εἰσήγαγε τὰς ἑταιρίδας δή, the pretended concubines (that, to be sure, was what everybody would acknowledge them to be!). Comp. δῆθεν, § 234.

5) With verbs: ἄγε δή. θώμεθα δὴ φόρτιον. ἐπεὶ προθυμεῖ, χρὴ λέγειν. ἄκουε δή, well then, hear. οἶσθα δὴ τὸ πᾶν, there thou knowest the whole. σύμπεμψον τοίνυν μοί τινα. “ λαβὼν δὴ ἴθι, ἔφη, ὅντινα ἐθέλεις, ” take then (without more ado: as matter of course come to that at once). With irony, δεδιώς περὶ αὐτοῦ, μὴ διαφθαρῇ δὴ ὑπὸ ᾿Αλκιβιάδου, Pl. Prot. 320.

§ 235

With the whole sentence: νῦν δ᾽ αὖ μόνα δὴ νὰ λελειμμένα, since it has come to this, that we are left alone. ὁ μὲν χρόνος δὴ διὰ χρόνου προὔβαινέ μοι, Soph. Ant. 58, denoting the slowness of the passage of time.

In conclusions: ἐκ δὴ τούτων -, from this then it follows (comp. μήν of the steps of an argument). In resumption after interruption: ἐν τούτῳ δὴ ἄν τις γενόμενος, Pl. Men. 240, well then (to come back at last to that point) if one be in—. Both uses are exemplified in δεῖ δὴ (of course then it is necessary) πραότερόν πως ἀποκρίνεσθαι. δημοκρατία δή (Well then -). In enumerations, denoting the accession of some weightier consideration, ὑγίεια καὶ ἰσχὺς καὶ κάλλος καὶ πλοῦτος δή (denique), Pl. Men. 87: so καὶ τὸ δὴ μέγιστον: or something special, ἄλλος τε καὶ δὴ καὶ –.

§ 236

καὶ δή, in replies: βλέψον κάτω. “ καὶ δὴ βλέπω," well, I am looking (that S already): ταῦτα δή, there, ' tis done! in the supposition of a fictitious case, καὶ δὴ τεθνᾶσι, well, they are dead (suppose it).

μήν and δή exclude each other, therefore this combination never occurs in good authors; but μὲν δή is frequent, especially in dismissing a consideration: εἰεν τὰ μὲν δὴ τύξ᾽ ἔχεις, the bow thou hast (enough of that). τοιαῦτα μὲν δὴ ταῦτα, hæc hactenus. ἀλλ᾽ ἦλθε μὲν δὴ τοῦτο τοὔνειδος τάχ᾽ ἂν ὀργῇ βιασθέν, but in fact or, it may be enough to say that (one consideration, μέν, and there an end, δή). Hence μὲν δή approaches nearly to μήν, and Plato renders Homer's καὶ μὴν Τάνταλον εἰςεῖδον by καὶ μὲν δὴ καὶ Τάνταλόν γε εἰδεῖδον, Prot. 315, and moreover (the enumeration begun with μέν cut short by δή). ο οὐ μὲν δὴ λήξω, Soph. El. 103 = οὐ μὴν λήξω. βασιλικοὶ μὲν ἄνδρες, οὐ μὲν δὴ ἐπιστήμονές γε (where Stallb. would read μέντοι for μὲν δή), Pl. Phad. 266. καὶ μὲν δὴ χαλεπὸν ἐπιχειροῦμεν, Pl. Pol. 287 (porro etiam). ἂν μὲν δὴ καὶ ὑποπίῃ, Pl. Lys. 89, jam si adeo. μάλιστα μὲν δὴ (in fact, or, and that one consideration enough) ἔπειτα μέντοι (but then), Soph. Phil. 350.

§ 237

δῆτα. This more emphatic form of δή (comp. ἔπειτα from ἐπεί, τηνικαῦτα from τηνίκα), not found in Hom. and Dor., rare in Herodot., is frequent in Attic, where it accompanies all the parts of speech.

In replies: ξυμβόλαια δὲ λέγεις κοινωνήματα, ἤ τι ἄλλο; “ κοινωνήματα δῆτα” (just so, that is the very thing!), Pl. Rep. 1, 333. In earnest iterations: οἴκτειρε δ᾽ ἡμᾶς... “ οἴκτειρε δῆτα," yes, do pity, Eur. El. 678. ἰώ. “ ἰὼ δῆτα,” (it is') alas! indeed, Soph. Ed. 541. ὡς μ᾿ ἀπώλεσας θανών. ἀπώλεσας δῆτ᾽, how hast thou undone me! [1] yes, undone indeed! Soph. El. 1155. σκόπει δῆτα, only look! In wishes: ἀπόλοιο δῆτα, oh that thou mightest but perish! In questions: τί δῆτ᾽, ἐπειδὰν –; quid tum demum dicetis, quum? τί δῆτα κλαίεις; what are you weepingfor? τίς ἄρα ῥύσεται, τίς ἄρ᾽ ἐπαρκέσει θεῶν ἢ θεᾶν; ποτέρα δῆτ᾽ ἐγὼ ποτιπέσω βρέτη δαιμόνων; am I then (and what avails that)? Æsch. Sept. 93. οἶσθα δῆτά γε; thou dosť, surely, know? ᾔδησθα γὰρ δῆτ', I suppose you knew (ironically). ἢ δῆτα, yes, verily. οὐ δῆτα, minime vero. μὴ δῆτα δράσῃς ταῦτα, only not this! ὅτε δῆτα, just when. καὶ δῆτ᾽ ἐτόλμας, and, forsooth, you had the audacity, Soph. Ant. 445.


[1]: The particle belongs to the whole sentence, but attaches itself to μόνα. So in Æsch. Eum. 3. (First Gæa, and after her, Themis) ἢ δὴ (ut satis constat) τὸ μητρὸς δευτέρα τύδ᾽ ἔζετο μαντεῖον, it belongs to the sentence as a whole, but more closely to τὸ μητρός. Fully expressed, the meaning is: " who succeeded to the oracle which everybody knows that was her mother's before her, and to which therefore as everybody must see she had the fullest right." Müller on the Eum. § 91, n.

§ 238

δαί (Attic). This particle occurs onlyin the combination τί δαί; πῶς δαί; and is usedin forcible transitions, with indignation, wonder, or other emotions: what then? how so? τί δαὶ τἆλλα; what then say you to the rest? It occurs only in the familiar Attic style.

§ 239

-θε, -θεν. The first only as a suffix in εἴθε, " would that," " if but" = in this (or, in that) case. The second as a suffix of case, οὐρανόθεν, from heaven, ἐντεῦθεν, thence, &c.: hence, in composition with δή,

δῆθεν.

This particle (not used by Hom.), originally =from that (as the terminus a quo) is almost always ironical (= something which all the world acknowledges, to set out with!), forsooth, in pretence, of course (derisively). τοῦτο τὸ ἄγος οἱ Λακεδαιμόνιοι ἐλαύνειν ἐκέλευον, δῆθεν τοῖς θεοῖς πρῶτον τιμωροῦντες, Thuc. 1, 127. ὡς ἐκπεφευγὼς τοὺς ἐχθροὺς, οἱ μιν · · ἠθέλησαν ἀπολέσαι δῆθεν (as he pretended), Hdt. 1, 11. τῆς ἐκεῖνος οὐδαμὰ βλάστας ἐφώνει, δῆθεν οὐδὲν ἱστορῶν, Soph. Tr. 381.

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